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Friday, April 19, 2024

This page is the result of an on-going survey of Norton Commandos. The idea it to understand better the history of he Commando as it related to the numbers made and some of the changes over the years. It is not always possible to know if bikes are original and often they have been changed, sometimes radically from how they were made. Generally, the Notes column tries to make what is known and what isn't clear.

Please write me at marshg@gregmarsh.com is you have any info to share and if you have a factory record, please send a copy!

Frame Numbering:

Norton frames were initially made by Reynolds (British Company) and later by Verlicchi (Italian company).

There is sometimes confusion over "frame numbers" on Commandos. The red metal plate attached to the headstock with hammer drive screws is called a Certification Label. It normally contains the bike's serial number (engine/gearbox number) and a date (Month and Year). 850s have that and except for the first 6000 or so, they have a number stamped into the metal on the timing side of the head stock - that is the frame number. 750s after 1968 have no frame number.

There are four types of 850 frame numbers. They all have a special character intermixed which is similar to Norton Frame Symbol

	850xxxxxx		Pre-MKIII Reynolds frame - xxxxxx matches the engine number (This may or may not be true. I've been told this, but have no proof and have never seen one to check)
	850F1xxxxx		Pre-MKIII Verlicchi frame - xxxxx does not match the engine number
	850F125001		When Norton started building the MKIII the frame number started at 125001 and then went sequentially (more or less) from there until mid-May 1975
	850xxxxxx		MKIII from mid-May - the F was eliminated and xxxxxx matched the engine number

This info below is not verified and if you have anything to dispute, change, or back it up, I would like to hear it:

In theory, all 850s had a frame number and no 750s did. However, it is clear that the first 6000 or so 850s had no frame number. Also, the 68 and early 69 750s had the serial stamped into the headstock and there was not Red Certification label.
It appears that most 850 frames were made by Verlicchi, but Ken Sprayson (of Reynolds) in his book "The Frame Man" ISBN-10 095649756X said the agreement between Norton and Reynolds was to continue supplying frames until Reynolds stock of tubing was been used up.
Supposedly if there was a problem with a Verlicchi frame, Reynolds would fix it.
In general, Reynolds used imperial sized tubing (1' & 2.25') and Verlicchi used metric sized tubing (25mm & 60mm - .984" & 2.362").
- However there are frames with a mix of the two
- One theory is that Reynolds fixed Verlicchi frames using imperial tubes.
I've been told that for 850s:
- Reynolds stamped the frame number on the drive-side of the headstock and Verlicchi on the timing-side - I do not believe this.
- I've also been told that the Reynolds number would match the engine and that the Reynolds frames did not include the "F". I have some proof otherwise and do not believe it.
- Until recently I had not seen any numbers on the drive side of the head stock. Then these came up:
  - 235297 has no number on the timing side and 00100 on the drive side.
  - 300107 has no number on the timing side and 00100 on the drive side.
  - 301037 has no number on the timing side and 00100 on the drive side.
  - 304987 has no number on the timing side and 00109 on the drive side.
  - 306028 has no number on the timing side and 00116 on the drive side.
  - 310028 has 850F104129 on the timing side and 00123 on the drive side.
  - 312097 has 850F005218 on the timing side and 00122 on the drive side.
  - 235677 has 850F105911 on the timing side and 00125 on the drive side. (Engine Serial actually 2356771)
  - 312547 has 850F107291 on the timing side and 00126 on the drive side.
  - 319416 has 850F107384 on the timing side and 00126 on the drive side.
  - 318299 has 850F109123 on the timing side and 00127 on the drive side.
  - 318478 has 850F109297 on the timing side and 00129 on the drive side.
- Those 3-digit numbers are too close together to be frame numbers for the bikes - there are months between them. Notice the highlighted duplicate and out of order numbers.
- The current thinking is that they are a batch number; but, are they Reynold or Verlicchi?
- I've had many bikes checked that have no drive-side numbers but there are many more than have not been checked.

When providing your bike's info, it is most helpful if as complete info as possible and let me know how sure you are that each part is original. If you have the factory dispatch record, I would love a copy. Here's the desired info:

Serial Number from engine, gearbox and Red Certification label. If all the same just provide the engine serial and say matching numbers.
Date from the Red Certification label.
Frame number of the timing side of the headstock, if any. 850s from about serial 306000 should have one. If you're sure there's no number, please say so.
Any numbers from the drive side of the headstock.
The head type.
Anything you would like to about the bike (e.g., original color, current color, model, operational or not, etc.)

Survey Results: Info on 570 Commandos found so far

No one seems to know how many were actually built but drawing from various sources, including this page, I think about 24,600 750s, 23,100 850s before MKIII, and 10,800 MKIIIs which makes the total 58,500. I've seen totals as high as 60,000 and as low as 50,000. I'm confident that I'm not far off.

Serial	Label Date	Frame	Head	Notes
124537	-----			Parted out - Bottom end seen on eBay 12/11/21
124678	-----			Seen on eBay 7/24/21. Mag wheels, right shift, rear disc brake on right, number mach unknown
126452	-----			RIP - bottom end seen on eBay Nov 30, 2022
126490	-----	See Notes		1968, Red and under restoration. Frame number stamped in headstock. Original fibreglas tank with badges, match numbers This bike was imported to New Zealand from the US.
126876	-----			More info coming. The bike is mostly original and is currently being freshened up
127242	-----			Parted out - Engine and matching gearbox cases seen on eBay 10/22/20, no title.
127669	See Notes	See Notes	RH3	I recently purchased a Norton Commando frame no 127669 first registered in March 1969 here in the UK, although I was told by Andover Norton when ordering some parts it was manufactured in June 1968. The frame number is stamped on the drive side of the head stock - there is no red Certification Label - the bike was built before that startedd being used. It has the old style centre stand and the side stand is in the middle of bottom section of the frame and very awkward to use. It is not a matching numbers bike the gearbox has the same number as the frame. The engine no is 203228 and a "C" on the head
127961	-----	See Notes		Matching numbers. Frame number stamped in headstock Owner said: Red, First Registered 04 12 68, Current owner since 1972 (It was so good why would I ever part with it?)
128231	-----	See Notes		Owner says: I bought this bike about 25 years ago. It still has the widow maker frame and the frame number is stamped on the left side of the headstock. Timing side tach drive, points distributor where the mag goes, has the plastic Norton Villers round tank badges and it still has the Atlas style mufflers on it.;
128336	Sep 68	N/A		From factory record: Berliner - No colour info, presumably because they were only silver at this time?
128372		N/A		Silver/Sapphire Blue
130308	See Notes	N/A		RIP - this serial is from the gearbox in that is currently in 308526.
130823	Feb 69	N/A		In NZ today.
1308xx	Feb 69	N/A
131183		N/A		Owner says: The fuel tank on this is shaped like a Fastback fuel tank but it has extensions on each side that stick out maybe 2 inchs that follow the lines of the tank, I don’t know if this was done to increase the capacity or if someone got creative with the fiberglass or what I’ve never seen a FB tank like this one before .
131227	Mar 69	N/A		Fastback, one of the genuine rarer red/silver versions. Under restoration. This bike was imported to New Zealand from the US.
131286	Mar 69	N/A		Certification Label shows Mar 1969 with build location London. Andover Norton supplied a despatch copy showing build date Mar 12, 1969 shipped to Norton Villiers in California on Mar 19, 1969.
132218	Apr 69	N/A		"S" Model. Engine and Cert label match, gearrbox doesn't. Mostly used for show.
132247	May 69	N/A		"S" Model. Ower says: Club: The records do show as an ”S” but that is all, as it went to Berliners in New York. So no further information available.
133040	Jun 69	N/A		Bought on eBay by a customer of mine 8/21/21. Matching numbers , Partly rebuild as a Black Roadster but is really an S-Type. It was shipped to me or sorting out then the customer decided he didn't want it and I bought it. Will eventaully rebuild back to original. The gearbox has a new case - no number.
133096		N/A		Actual engine number: 20M3S 133096, was originally a S type Commando despatched from the factory 16th June 1969 to Los Angeles, CA
133140	Jun 69	N/A		According to the factory records, this was a S-Type built Jun 12, 1969 (Thursday), Batch 2627
133141	Jun 69	N/A		According to the factory records, this was a S-Type built Jun 16, 1969 (Monday), batch 2651, and was dispatched to Norton Villers Corp, LA on Jun 26, 1969 with 23 other S-Types on the ship Axel Johnosn. Today, this is a fully restored S-Type in blue and all matching numbers. However the tank is Fiberglas This wa pre-sold to a customer but he has disappeared. You have to ask me - I want MUCH less for this one that it should get - normally I would ask for $15,000 but I do';t have a lot in it so you can proably talk be down a bit from $11,000. If you want the tank replaced wth steel I can do that but we'll have to discuss the color and side panels. If you want them all done in a different color, that will be $1,500.
133926	See Notes	N/A		Rolling black café racer project sold on eBay. Engine/Gearbox match but not the frame. Certification Label has 312189 and Dec 73. So, actally 133926 is RIP and the engine/gearbox for 312189 is unknown.
133929	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - bought the bottom end for $273 delivered 9/5/23. The crankshaft, conrods, oil pump and timing case timing parts are savable. The cases look OK. The camshaft and other things are toast This ia 1970 engine but later so 20M3S rather than 20M3.
133941		N/A		Actual engine number: 20M3S 133941, was originally a S type Commando despatched from the factory 14th August 1969 to New York, NY. This bike is probably RIP as it's gearbox in in 133096
133967	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Matching frame and engine cases seen on eBay, gearbox cases not included, no title
133979		N/A		Black Roadster seen on eBay 6/6/21 in nice condition
134015	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine Cases seen on eBay 1/25/22
134147	Oct 69	N/A		Actual engine number: 20M3S 134147., Black 750 Commando Roadster. Bought in Philadelphia Pa, Unknown linage partial chopper not running Engine and trans match, to many parts missing to rebuild original. Redone myself into flat tracker – street tracker. All matching numbers, Bike is alive and well residing in my garage Pennsylvania
134481		N/A		Restored, yellow, 69S seen on eBay 8/4/2023
134548	See Notes	N/A		Certification Label is unreadable for the date but the bike was registered in 1970. S-Type. Matching numbers. Originally was Fireflake Blue, is not Canary Yellow.
134673	See Notes	N/A		Certification Label is unreadable for the date but the owners club checked the factory records: It has a manufacture date of 17tth Dec 1969. Verified as an S Code. No colour recorded but there is blue metallic paint under the black paint on the fiberglas tank That should mean that it is Sapphire Blue. Was then shipped to a dealership in France. More Info owner/owner's club: 134673 it was described as a Commando S type late 1969 correctly. As mentioned on the phone you have purchased this from the USA but I have confirmed, it went to France first. Continental Cars had three outlets in the USA and one in France. So your S type found it`s way there somehow. I have also checked the colour which was not listed in this case.
134680	-----	N/A	-----	This bike is probably RIP as an Access Norton member has the gearbox wiht that number.
135014	May 70	N/A		From factory record: Green 'S' type Elite Motors London
135652	May 70	N/A		Roadster
135729		N/A		Seen on eBay 12/16/23. Nice looking bike being sold as a 70S. The last "S" was 135088 so it didn't leave the factory as an "S". It has a Black with Silver lining "D" style. Black/Silver never existed and the "S" was never black. No mention of matching numbers.
135730	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine Cases seen on eBay 1/25/22
136106		N/A		Owner says: I just bought this one back from the guy I restored it for. This one originally came to me in 2005 as a complete bike in sorry shape. Not much left of the original bike, but I am glad to have it back. It is a lovely rider! Based on the frame that it came with, it had been a chopper at one time - the steering head had been raked out with some very questionable welds, and I found evidence that a sissy bar had been welded to the rear loop at one time. The main tube had a very noticeable bend in it - hence the frame was scrapped and a decent 1971 frame replaced it, updated with a later kickstand lug.
136349	See Notes	N/A		Owner says:that the Certificaiton Label has the whole word “APRIL” stamped along one edge (looks original), assume April 1970 build, bike has been owned by my late uncle since 1978, has 13,000 original miles. Black Roadster, matching numbers. At some point, the oil tank, air cleaner back plate, battery tray, and side covers have been replaced with ’71-later ones. I inherited the bike, and I am restoring it to road worthy condition. Colour will be changed to yellow, although the original black body work will be preserved. I am the third owner.;
136395	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out. Engine cases seen on eBay-UK 12/11/23
136893	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out. Frame seen on H. J. Pugh auction website 2/14/24. This is a frame only and the number is on the red certification label.
137198		N/A		Black Roadster delivered May 22, 1970 to Gus Kuhn, London. Now in Germany, rebuilt from a basket case, currently with "S" type exhausts, "halo" and Royal Blue Fireflake.
137673	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - I have the geagbox
138339		N/A		Matching numbers. Owner said: "From the fiberglass tank and panels the black commando seems to have started off yellow" Actual engine number 20M3S138339
138426		N/A		Originally a Roadster, now custom built café racer (3 different genres) Silver Manx colors, matching numbers
139211		N/A		Originally as Roadster, sold as a red rolling café racer project, matching numbers
139242		N/A		Roadster, matching numbers
139476		N/A		Black rider seeen on eBay 8/4/2023. No sure of hte model. Has a halo. Tank painted as a 850 but wiht pronounced knee area. Basically looks like a Roadster.
139498	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Bottom end seen on eBay 2/26/22
139507	Sep 70	N/A		From factory record: - Purple Roadster US - Berliner
140037	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Bottom end seen on eBay
140156	Mar 71	N/A
140915	Nov 70	N/A		From factory record: - Purple Roadster US - Berliner
141048	None	N/A		Running engine number 20M3S141048, no frame or gearbox, sold to replace a blown engine in FL.
141548		N/A		Seen on eBay 10/3/20: Norton Commando Roadster. Engine and frame number 141548, matching. A Roadster model dispatched from the factory on December 15, 1970 to agent/dealership Europacar, USA. No title.
141622		N/A		Sold as a black rolling chopper (heavily modified frame), matching numbers
141652		N/A		Owner said: "Was bought in NYC in 1972 by a friend who sold it to me in 1973"
141806	Oct 70	N/A		Original model unknown
142215	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out- Engine cases seen on eBay
142281	Jan 71	N/A		Matching numbers. Quite a story with this one. A friend of mine bought this not running in 1973. He was a civilian electrical engineer for the Navy in Ca. He either rode this bike or drove a 1957 TR3 to work every day. He is just now getting where he has a hard time kick starting and getting on center stand. His plan is to add an alton electric start and a side stand.
142576		N/A		Seen on eBay 11/5/20 for sale as a running biker, matching numbers, basically stock.
142787	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out- Engine cases seen on eBay 6/15/21
143230		N/A		Seen on eBay 4/9/22. Restored Dunstall Norton with proof of being real.
143940	Mar 71	N/A		Original model unknown
143958	Mar 71	N/A		Red Fastback on the road.
144493		N/A		All matching numbers. Basically stock but has upgraded Amals and Boyer ignition. All else is unmolested. Supposedly shipped to California originally and was green. Who knows? Then painted black and now back to green.
144733	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay-UK 12/11/2023
145253	Mar 71	N/A		The factory record has no headers so it's difficult to know for sure what each column means. It shows that the bike was sent to NVC, Long Beach, CA and it was yellow. It lists two dates 4-5-71 and 7-4-71. I suspect that it means it was finished April 7, 1971 and shipped May 4, 1971. It also lists "S-S". The current owner bought the bike in 1974 and by then it was a black Roadster. It has matching numbers.
145322		N/A		This bike is RIP. It was parted out and some parts used for 204375
145334		N/A		This bike is RIP. The bottom end was seen on eBay 1/9/21
145647	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Bottom end seen on eBay Nov 30, 2022
146219	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay
147119	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - I have the gearbox case.
147585	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - rough shape complete engine seen on eBay 8/4/2023.
147690	May 71	N/A		Dispatch Recrod shows it built June 18, 1972 and shipped June 21, 1971. 1971 Commando Hi Rider 20M3S147690, yellow, shipped to Firth M/C Danforth Ave. Toronto, On. Canada. Now in Roadster trim, geen, being renewed needing lots of tlc. IIRC was Aug 71 date trim Not 100% sure.
147709	Jun 71	N/A		The owner said: Norton Commando SS, Tangerine with tangerine side covers. Original owner had it switched to low pipes and I will be returning it to high pipes on each side. Matching numbers. Original milage is at 14076. Except low pipes and tires everything else is original to the bike (even the plug in on the air filter).
148306	May 71	N/A		No numbers stamped into the headstock.
148406	Jul 71	N/A		From factory record: - Interpol (Liverpool Police!)
148969	Jun 71	N/A		According to the factory record this was built or dispatched (not clear which) Jul 23, 1971 as a yelllow highrider. Right now, it is a fully restored red Fastback LR. It is titled as a 1972. The engine cases have no serial, other numbers match. does have the cam-end breather
149378	Sep 71	N/A	-----	Parted out- Frame seen on eBay with title, 10/22/20 (the serial and MoYr are from the cerificaiton lable);
150548	Aug 71	N/A	-----	From Access Norton
150651	Sep 71	N/A	RH1	750 Fastback, Registered in 72. Shows 20,400 miles, probably has more.. Frame and Engine serial match, gearbox serial is 204303. There is no head stamp so it's a RH1 British racing green, fiberglass tank, Dunstall rearsets, Alkont aluminum rims, lockhead/norton front disc brake, 5 1/2" headlight. Runs and is operational now, but was non-op for 20 years except for 2006. Needs a lot of maintenance/restoration.
150770	Mar 72	N/A	RH1	The owner said: "Sold to me as a 1971 model, the plate on the frame looks to be original and is serial number 150770 with a date of Mar 1972. The bike was previously registered in Ohio but is now in Australia being recommissioned and put back on the road." The gearbox has no serial number otherwise, it is matching numbers. The certificaiton label does appears original - steel hammer drive screws. The actual date is MAR 1972 which was sometimes done that was at that time.
150990		N/A	-----	Parted out- Cases seen on eBay with title, 11/08/21
150990	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - cases seen on eBay 12/11/21
151040		N/A		Seen on eBay 7/24/21,Project, Drum Front Brake,
151159		N/A		Actual engine number: 20M3S 151159, NOC Record shows: Build Date: 23 Sep 71; Model: Roadster, Dispatch Date: 30 Sep 71 to Harry Firth, Danforth Street, Toronto
151188	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Access Norton member has engine cases.
151520	Sep 71	N/A	---	Front drum brake. Starts and rides, 50 year old bike needing a few things.The certifcation label, gearbox and title all match. The engine is 212505, a Combat.
151673				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Elite Motors UK
151674				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 29 October 1971, Roadster, Red
151675				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 28 October 1971, Roadster, Black
151676				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 12 October 1971, Roadster, Signal Orange
151677				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 29 October 1971, Roadster, Signal Orange
151678				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Podevjin, Belgium 8 October 1971, Roadster, Red
151679				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 28 October 1971, Roadster, Red
151680				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 29 October 1971, Roadster, Signal Orange
151681				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Fabretti, (Italy) 18 October 1971, Roadster,Red
151682				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Freddie Frith 11 October 1971, Roadster, Black
151683				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Freddie Frith 11 November 1971, Roadster, Black
151684				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 30 November 1971, Roadster, Black
151685				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 28 October 1971, Roadster, Yellow
151686				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 12 October 1971, Roadster, Black
151687				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Elite 9 October 1971, Roadster,Red
151688				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 30 November 1971, Roadster, Black
151689				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 28 October 1971, Roadster, Signal Orange
151690				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Gus Kuhn 8 November, Roadster, Black
151691				Dispatch Record: Shipped to N.V.C 28 October, Roadster, Black
151692				Dispatch Record: Shipped to N.V.C 19 October, Roadster, Signal Orange
151693				Dispatch Record: Shipped to N.V.C 28 October, Roadster, Black
151694				Dispatch Record: Shipped to N.V.C 28 October, Roadster, Signal Orange
151695				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 12 October 1971, Roadster, Signal Orange
151696				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Comerfords 10 November 1971, Roadster, Yellow
151697				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Comerfords 15 November 1971, Roadster, Bronze
151698				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Freddie Frith 12 October 1971, Roadster, Red
151699				Dispatch Record: Shipped to N.V.C., Montreal 4 November 1971, Roadster, Black
151700				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Comerfords 4 November 1971, Roadster, Purple
151701				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Wessels 8 October 1971, Roadster, Black
151702				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner November 1971, Roadster, Black
151703				Dispatch Record: Shipped to Berliner 30 November 1971, Roadster, Black
151890	Sep 71	N/A		Actual engine number: 20M3S 151890,
152104	Dec 71	N/A		Owner says: is my black roadster. Goes well. Refurbished 2020. Matching numbers. This bike was imported to New Zealand from the US.
152647		N/A		Seen on eBay 8/21/21 and 8/4/2023. Not sure about numbers. The Certificaiotn Label shows 152647 but engine/gearbox not shown or stated. Seller states that is a 72 but that is probably wrong due to the serial number. The seller states: "Offered is an excellent 1972 Norton Commando 750 in unmolested form. Fiberglass tank was replaced with NOS Norton steel tank. Paint is flawless. There is a small dent in the right hand muffler. Isolastic mounts were rebuilt several years ago. Wassell electronic ignition replaces the original dual point for reliability reasons. Runs and rides well. There are no turn signals and the chain oiler has been removed. I am the 3rd owner and the bike has been mostly idle the last 25 years except for cruise nights and shows."
152920	Dec 71	N/A		Original model unknown
152964		N/A		Restored, matching numbers black Roadster. Seen on eBay 8/4/2023. Seller states 1972 but it's earlider than that based on the serial number.
153362	Nov 71	N/A		May have been a Dunstall.The engine is 20M3S 153362 and appears to be original to the bike - the number is stamped on the side of the engine, not in the normal curve but there s no spot for the number like later engined have.
200623		N/A		According to the factory record, this was the 1st built on Dec 9, 1971 and it was a blue roadster. It was sent to Challenge Motors, Barcelona Spain Nov 21, 1972
200918	Aug 72	N/A		The machine was a white tanked Interpol and was sold to Leicestershire police by Roy Hamblin Ltd. The machine is now a Roman Purple metallic tanked Roadster
200937		N/A		White police Interpol bike. 1 of 2 supplied to Leicestershire Police, UK in Sept 1972. No month on the certification label. Fitted with disc brake. Now in Interstate trim and red/white. Number is in the VMCC records, but entry is blank.
201012		N/A	RH3	Scratch rebuild of an original combat to a yellow replica production racer, matching numbers
201123	Oct 71	N/A	RH3	Combat
201251	Dec 71	N/A	RH3	According to the factory record, this was the 25th built on Jan 4, 1972 and it was yellow. It was wrecked in the 1974 and rebuilt using parts from 209458 as a black Roadster. I restored and sold it Jan 1, 2020. Matching numbers. Rebuild Story
201391	-----	-----	-----	Parted out - engine cases seen on eBay Nov 12, 2023
201664	Dec 71	N/A
201881	Dec 71	N/A	RH3	Combat, NOC factory records project showed Dec 1971 build and shipment.
201961		N/A		Custom Commando seen for sale on eBay Nov 27, 22 for $22,900
201962		N/A		Seen on eBay 5/15/23. Custom Commando built wiht Paul Dunstall parts. Has a weird date on the certificaiton lable: Jan 81!
202093	Jan 72	N/A	RH3	Yellow Combat Roadster. Purchased new in England from Comerfords in Thames-Ditton in June of 1972. His college room mate bought a 1971 leftover black one at the same time and they put on about 1000 miles riding around England. The crank bearings went at 4700 miles and the US dealer and Berliner would not warranty it because it wasn't bought in the US.
202199	-----	-----	-----	Parted Complete gearbox seen on UK eBay 9/6/2023
202206	Dec 71	N/A
202322	Dec 71	N/A	RH3	Owner says: Factory Combat (head stamped with C in the centre), originally a black Interstate, changed to mostly Fastback bodywork, polished aluminum tank, retained Interstate side covers. Matching numbers. Restored, custom paint (title still lists it as black) many updates, fitted with Alton Electric Start in summer of 2020. I am the second owner, I knew the original owner.;
202567	Dec 71	N/A	RH3	Matching numbers Combat.
202902		N/A		Parted out. Gearbox seen on eBay 7/31/2023
203143	Jan 72	N/A	RH3	Was a Black Roadster, rebuilt as a Red Roadster Rebuild Story The factory record has it as the 42nd of 56 bikes on Feb 15, 1972 (not sure if built or dispatched on that day, guessing dispatched),and it was a Black Roadster. This bike along with 133141 were built for a guy who has disappeared. So, the first $14,000 takes away this beauty and if you don’t like red, I switch it to whatever standard Combat color you want for $500 more.
203228	Unk	Unk	RH3	See 127669. 203228 is RIP but the engine is in 127669.
203739		N/A		Seen on eBay 11/5/20 for sale as a running chopper, matching numbers. Springer front end.
204157	-----	N/A	-----	According to the factory record, this was the 14th built on Mar 10, 1972 and it was a purple roadster.
204161	-----	N/A	-----	According to the factory record, this was the 10th built on Mar 10, 1972 and it was a black roadster.
204167	-----	N/A	-----	According to the factory record, this was the 12th built on Mar 10, 1972 and it was a purple roadster.
204303	----	N/A	N/A	Parted out, serial is the gearbox. See 150651 where the gearbox is now.
204346	-----	N/A	-----	According to the factory record, this was the 1st built on Mar 11, 1972 and it was a black roadster.
204375	Feb 72	N/A	RH3	According to the factory record, this was the 43rd built on Mar 10, 1972 and it was a black roadster.
204428	-----	N/A	-----	According to the factory record, this was the 2nd built on Mar 11, 1972 and it was a black roadster.
204510	Feb 72	N/A	RH3	Black Combat Roadster. Matching numbers. Frame nickel platesat some point -as of 3/22, being restore wiht a black frame.
204511	-----	N/A	-----	According to the factory record, this was the 29th built on Mar 10, 1972 and it was a black roadster.
204558	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay 12/11/21
204667	-----	N/A	-----	According to the factory record, this was the 10th built on Mar 10, 1972 and it was a purple roadster.
204786	See Notes	N/A	-----	Matching numbers. The current certificaiton label and the original don't have the date stamped in them. However, the original has 1972 stamped in corner - never seen this before - the 1 and 9 are barely there. The current label has 1972 in the same location. According to the factory record, this was the 42nd bike built or dispatched (not clear which) on Apr 4, 1972. Iit was a black Roadster.
204967		N/A	RH3	Owner said: 1972 Norton 750 Combat that I bought used as a basket case in Newport News Virginia. I am in the middle of doing a restoration on it, it was in sad condition. The engine and frame serial numbers match but the gearbox does not match. I bought it for $600 about 18 years ago and kept it in my shed until I retired so I would have time to work on it.
205250		N/A		Matching numbers orange Combat
205578	Mar 72	See Notes		Titled, Matching Nnumbers Combat. However the frame is from an 850 and thedrive side of the headstock is stamped with 00106. When this bike is rebuilt it will be with a 750 frame.The date on the Certificaiton Label was stamped on the wrong side as 1972 MAR - it's like the person doing it didn't notice that they were stanping in in the serial area.
205756	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out. Gearbox seen on eBay 9/15/23 and on eBay-UK 12/11/23
206163	-----	N/A	-----	Probably RIP - see 209788 which has this gearbox.
206276	See Notes	N/A	RH3	Owner says: Matching numbers Roadster Combat, bought in 1978. To the right and below the serial number, the Certification Label is stamped "PR". I was told it sold new in Germany (kilometer speedo). I asked Brian Slark about it years ago, he suggested it was likely a production racer that was changed at the factory. The date field on the Certifcation Label is blank.
206307		N/A		Owner said: Was sold to me by a friend in 1978 after sitting outside for a number of years
206344	Apr 72	N/A
206404		N/A		Owner says: "Just purchased from previous UK owner. US bike imported to UK in 2008. Refurbished/rebuilt in Roadster trim. Matching numbers."
206556	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay
206606	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - engine cases seen on eBay Nov 12, 2023
206709		N/A		Red Interstate.. Seen on Access Norton 5/28/2022. Owner said: "It is not running presently as it has been sitting in some old man's daylight basement for the last 25 years." Appears to be orriginal and is in pretty good shapee.
206710	See Notes	N/A	RH3	Combat, matching numbers. Owner said: The only other info is the 1972 date stamped upside down in the lower right corner and it is a steel tank roadster. I bought it as a rusty bucket of junk in one piece in 2003. it showed 21,000 on the odometer and I have another 50K after the rebuild.
207219		N/A	-	All original, unrestored, 1972 Norton 750 Interstate Commando, Blue, seen on eBay 9/25/2020;
207384	Apr 72	N/A
207441	Apr 72	N/A		Combat Roadster, goes well, Refurbished 202o, matching numbers. This bike was imported to New Zealand from the US.
207527		N/A		Modified and Restored, matching numbers, Yellow, Combat Interstate. Seen on UK eBay 2/14/24.
207879		N/A		Mostly there Black Roadster. Unregistered and imported from the US Unknown gearbox number and the red certificaiton label matches the engine. Seen on UK eBay 2/14/24.
208192		N/A	RH3	Owner says: I’m in Australia. I have a 72 750 non-combat, currently a roadster, black and gold, Engine number 208192, no certification label. It’s likely to have been a USA import to Australia 10 + years ago.
208276	Jul 72	N/A	RH3	Bronze Combat Roadster (US re-import to UK, no record available)
208506		N/A	RH3	Seen on eBay 12/9/20 for sale as a fully restored cafe racer style yellow Combat with matching numbers.
208558		N/A		Parted out, Combat engine only and gearbox
208684	Jun 72	N/A		Seen on eBay 7/11/23. Titled project bike with matching numbers. The date is stamped by the serial.
208747		N/A		Seen on eBay 11/5/20 for sale as a running origianl paint black Roadster Comnbat, matching numbers.
209150		N/A		Seen on eBay 4/9/22. Barn find, sitting 20 years, looks decent but missing parts.
209310		N/A	RH3	Purple Combat refurbished to running, matching numbers
209338		N/A	RH3	Complete café racer build from an original Combat, alloy bodywork, matching numbers
209435	Mar 73	N/A	RH3	Owner said: 1972 Norton 750 Combat Roadster that I bought used in 1975 when I lived in New Jersey. Matching numbers. I still have it in my possession and it looks and runs great.
209458	Unknown	N/A	RH3	This bike is RIP. It was used to rebuild 201251 when it was wrecked in 1974. It was a black Roadster.
209530	Jul 72	N/A	RH3	Black Combat Interstate
209788	Jul 72	N/A	RH3	Currently a yellow Roadster Combat with many upgrades. Unknown what it was originally. Gearbox: 206163, Registered as 73
209906		N/A		Seen on eBay 8/6/21. Red Roadster, mathing numbers, mostly original
209944	Jul 72	N/A	RH3	Black Roadster, Combat, all maching numbers.
210414		N/A	RH3	Restoration of an existing black café racer, Combat, matching numbers.
210477	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay
211016	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Junk Gearbox case seen on eBay-UK 2/14/24
211223	Aug 72	N/A	RH3	Matching numbers. "Texas has titled this as a 73, may have been a holdover sale. Came to me as a roadster, has some unusual features, superblends which looked factory original, original standard cam, regular compression head not stamped, definitely not a Combat head, 32mm ports on head and 32mm carbs, disc brake, must be one of the post Combat 750's, completely restored and on the road"
211407	Aug 72	N/A		Roadster
212015	Oct 72	N/A	-----	Matching numbers yellow Roadster, seen on Craigslist in VT, 12/31/21
212315	-----	N/A	-----	This gearbox was purchased seperate from a bike.
212375	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay 12/19/20, 3/19/21
212451	Nov 72	N/A		Has a "C" head
212505	NA	N/A		This engine is in 151520 so most likely this bike is RIP. The engine is a Combat.
212515	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay 12/19/20, 3/19/21
213513	-----	N/A	-----	Seen online for a auction at the National Motorcycle Museum in the UK. Black Roadster, but the "D" on the tank is silver rather than gold. Write-up says: "This 1972 Norton Commando has been repatriated to the UK and has since been registered with a current V5C. It has been the subject of an older restoration, evidently restored to a good standard, and has been used since until its lay-up last year. Coming from a collection of machines, it will need some light recommissioning before use."
220081	Oct 72	N/A	RH6	Matching numbers black Roadster basket case being rebuildtfor a customer. Build Story
220181	Nov 72	N/A		Serial and Date from Cetrification Label, currently has no engine or gearbox but is titled/
220207	Oct 72	N/A		Matching numbers. Owner said: Frame Stamp: Top tube center near headstock: J 27 2. Bought in 1990 w/ Roadster configuration, unknown original paint and both tank (steel) and side cover (fiberglass) were custom painted. Originally, I wanted to make it bone stock, but realized that there were plenty of 'those' around, so now I'm leaning toward cafe style. Lots of CNW parts. Last bits are the electronics (trispark : ) and belt drive (leaning towards CNW).
220242		N/A		Cases seen on Access Norton 10/15/20.
220272		N/A	RH6	Black tank, original paint, lettering, and stripes. Was in PA, still in PA.
220295		N/A		Being rebuilt - almost done - Mar 8, 2022
220308		N/A		Was a US bike that wast parted out. Now will be a bitsa build in the UK as a MKV 750 Roadster but may be comverted ot 850.
220460	Jan 73	N/A
220635	Jan 73	N/A	RH6	Last Registered in NC Oct 92, 21,121 original miles, runs, "Fairly certain the head & cylinder have never been split."
2208xx	Nov 72	N/A
221188	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay
221221	Jan 73	N/A		Roadster
2212xx	Nov 72	N/A
221445		N/A	RH3	Basket case black rolling project, Combat, sold on eBay, matching numbers.
221504				Seen on Bring a Trailor 8.18.21. Blue matching numbers Roadster, no tank stripes and no big flakes.
230033	Dec 72			From Facebook: Roadster
230034	Dec 72			From Facebook: Black Roadster
230067				From Facebook: Seen on eBay May 2017. Engine bottom end in Fort Lauderdale Florida.
230069	Dec 72			From Facebook: Roadster, Sold new in Italy.
230071				From Facebook: Roadster
230112				From Facebook: Black Roadster
230213				From Facebook: Roadster
230220				From Facebook
230301				From Facebook
230321				From Facebook: Roadster
230346				From Facebook: Black Roadster
230351				From Facebook: Roadster
230352				From Facebook: Roadster
230407	Mar 73			From Facebook
230484	Feb 73			From Facebook
230506	Dec 72			From Facebook: Red Fastback
230513				From Facebook
230534				From Facebook: Roadster
230558	Jun 73			From Facebook: Per NOC data.
230560	-----	N/A	-----	This bike is probably RIP as an Access Norton member has the gearbox wiht that number.
230571	Sep 73			From Facebook: Per NOC data.
230607				From Facebook: Interstate
230615		N/A	RH5
230652				From Facebook
230748				From Facebook
230849				From Facebook
235016		N/A		From AccessNorton - SYX 167M - Hi-Rider 745cc registered to Norton Villiers Europe - 01/Feb/1974
235017	Feb 73	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - 2/73, 750 (Hi-Rider?)
235035	Jan 73	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - 1/73, 750 (Roadster) [Added 8/12. Seen on Aus ebay]
235036	-----	N/A	-----	From a friend of the owner - has a picture of the bike new. The bike was originally a Yellow Highrider from factory and dispatched to Toronto Canada
235056	-----	N/A	-----	This bike is probably RIP as an Access Norton member has the gearbox with that number.
235113		N/A		Drum Brakes
235118	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/73 750 (Re: NOC forum) (crankcase and other engine parts seen on UK ebay 12/2012)
235138	Feb 73	N/A	-----	From an AccessNorton Member. He took pictures of both sides of the Certification Label and the engine serial at a show. The Certification Label and rivets appear to be original on an originally painted frame. They match the engine number, and the bike is a 750.
235142	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - OGT 474L - Hi-Rider 745cc registered to Norton Villiers Europe - 11/Jul/1973
235146	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/73 750 (Hi-Rider?)
235155	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - SYX 157M - Hi-Rider 745cc registered to Norton Villiers Europe - 01/Sep/1973
235187	Jan 73	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton, 750 Hi-Rider
235196	-----	N/A	-----	Serial number is from a gearbox, see 313739
23519x	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/73 750 (Possible Hi-Rider?)
235224	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/73 750 (Hi-Rider converted to Roadster)
235234	Jan 73	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - 1/73 750 (Re: NOC forum)
235237	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/73 750
235280	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/73 750 (Hi-Rider)
235297	-----	N/A	-----	Marching numbers, Orange 750 Hi-Rider, Imported from the US recently, looks stock except for the mufflers. Seen on eBak UK 12/16/2023. The hardstock has 00100 stampled in the drive side.
235328	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - PTF 851M - Hi-Rider 745cc - Black - registered to Sports Motorcycles - 01/Sep/1973
235387	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - SYV 362M - Hi-Rider 745cc registered to Norton Villiers Europe - 01/Aug/1973
235399	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - SYV 363M - Hi-Rider 745cc registered to Norton Villiers Europe - 01/Aug/1973
235416	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine lower end seen on eBay
235430	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/?? 750 (Re: NOC forum 1/13)
235435	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - SYX 158M - Hi-Rider 745cc registered to Norton Villiers Europe - 01/Sep/1973
235449	Feb 73	N/A	N/A	Matching Numbesr 750 Interstate. Owner said: Bought in 85 for 150 bucks. Torn up seat, 1 muffler, drum front end, lousy paint job, bent front frame downtubes. 30k miles. But it ran. Probably was in an accident. Pretty sure it was built as an interstate. 9 yrs later it was restored. Don't know RH# of orig cyl head. Many broken fins and bad ex threads. Replaced it. 10 yrs later I got a powdercoated frame and updated swing arm. That's how it is now. Has just over 61500 on it now. I have only seen 2 higher numbers. Both at inoa rallies.
23553x	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/74 850 (Roadster)
2355651	Apr 74	850F105911	RH10	Matching numbers, lightly customized 850 Roadster in the weird 235xxx serial range with a strange serial number and a strange frame number - notice the extra preceeding "F" with two dots above it. Also noticee the MK3 rear disk brake. The brake lever and footpeg on the left side have been modified to support the master cylinder for the rear brake. The drive side of the headstock does not have a 00xxx number.
235576	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - 750 Short stroke engine
235608	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay UK, 8/26/22.
235638	See Notes	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - ?/74 850 (Roadster MK2A)
2356771	Apr 74	850F105911	RH10	Matching numbers, but the engine number is strange. It is 2356771. The drive side of the headstock has 00125 White JPS colours (blue and red stripes), Long black instrument cases, Large square rear light, V5c (and original USA title) says 750cc?, Roadster model, The bike looks like it never been apart but there’s no guarantee of this being the case. 12/16/23 update: This bike has been sold to a guy in Scotland.
2357001	Apr 74	850F107841	-----	Matching Numbers, but the engine number is strange. It is 2357001. This clearly left the factory as a Red MK2A Roadster. Today is a Red MK2 Roadster. The triple trees are marked ANG The owner said:The story behind my purchase in 1975 from Leo's Motorcycle in Bloomington MN is that my Commando was a 1974 Mk2a, and had been purchased brand new (prior to me) but had come back to the dealer (with about 600 miles on it) due to the original purchaser's financing fell through. (So I was told) My confidence in being able to authenticate this information is limited to only what I was told by the dealer. This being all the way back in 1975, that is the only memory of details that I have. At the time the 850 Commando was selling for $1,850 new but they were selling mine at $1,700 since it was technically not "new". I grabbed it and have had it ever since!! Below the black and white photos were taken by my brother just shortly after I got it. You can see the "break in" procedure sticker still on the speedo. Of course you can see the mufflers that came with it, the seat that came with it (which later on I seemed to come to understand that this seat was unusual. When I went to replace it years later due to wear, that exact seat was not listed in any parts documents. My British parts guy could not find any information on the seat that came with it. You can also see that it originally came with the crossover balance pipe between the exhaust headers. (I have since removed) Also in the black and white pic I think I might have already painted my side covers black, I had some goofy idea that it would look better. But when i bought it it did come with the matching red paint and the "850 Commando" decal. I restored the original paint job many years ago, along with the proper decals as seen in later pictures I have attached. The battery is oriented across the frame, not in line. The bike did come with the big black plastic air box.
235713	-----	N/A	-----	From AccessNorton - 750 Short stroke engine (72/73 750 crankcase?)
300107	Apr 73	See Notes	RH4	No numbers on the timing side of the headstock but 00100 on the drive side.
300125	Dec 72			Seen on Bring a Trailor 8.18.21. Black matching numbers Roadster.
300321				Seen on eBay for sale 10/15/20. Modified to be a cafe racer.;
300376	Feb 73
300410	Jun 73			Titled cases, matching gearbox and certification label.
300702	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - owner has the engine and gearbox but nothing else.
300870	Mar 73			Seen on AccessNorton being reawakened, Black Interstate
300966				Seen on eBay for sale 6/6/21 as a frame, engine cases, and title.
301037	Apr 73		RH4	Matching numbers 850 Roadster, Registered in 73, 10,400 miles Head stock stamp on drive side : 00100. Candy apple red, but seems to be painted over black (inside of side covers are black with red over-spray) Very nice frame up restoration, runs beautifully and is operational now but was non-op for 23 years.
301657	Mar 73		RH4	In 1978 I bought a 1973 Commando. It was a black roadster with a steel tank and fiberglass sidecovers serial number 301657 dated March 1973. Originated out of Firth Motors in Toronto.
301670	Mar 73	None	RH4	Currently an Interstate in AU. All matching numbers.; The frame has no number stamped in the headstock.
3017xx			RH4
301851	Mar 73			Seen on eBay 11/30/20. Blue Roadster. According to the listing iti is all original with 3900 miles. Running Video
302219	Apr 73			Blue Interstate, numbers matching wiht correct Veglia gauges, Silver barrells
302274	May 73	-----	RH4	The owner said: "My bike a 73 Black interstate 302274 with correct Veglia gauges was produced in May of 73 and also dispatched to Toronto and sold by Firth Motors."
302591	Apr 73	850F000108		From Alantic Green Frame Page
302598				Refurbished black Interstate, matching numbers
302779	-----	-----	-----	This gearbox was purchased seperate from a bike.
303024	-----	N/A	RH4	Engine in boxes, no title
303230	May 73	See Notes		Matching numbers. The owner is sure it's the origial frame but but there is no number on the headstock 750 frame?
303303			RH4	Interesting bike! The original owner bought the bike Sep 28, 1973 while he was in the service stationed in Germany through Paul Dunstall Organization Ltd Well Hall Rd London and according to the sales receipt was shipped to Merrel Barracks Nurnberg Germany. The bike originally had some Dunstall accessories most of which the current owner still has but not on the bike. He also has the original sales documentation from Dunstall. The original receipt says: "Dunstall Norton Mk. 1"
303xxx	May 73
304498	Jun 73	See Notes		Matching numbers. The owner is sure it's the origial frame but but there is no number on the headstock.
304561	May 73		RH4	Matching numbers. Original MK1 Roadster with silver barrels, balanced exhaust, and "hamcan" air cleaner.
304612	Jun 73
304620	Jun 73
304800	-----	-----	-----	From Andover Norton's "The Source". Factory record says: Batch: 1209C,(batch of 90), Interstate, Market: UK, Color: Black, Date off Track: Jun 7, 73, Date Passed Test: Jun 8, 73, Date Despatched: Jun 15, 73. This is an Andover Norton bike that has been used in their shop to check parts fit and is being rebuilt now as a shop bike.
304825	-----	-----	-----	This gearbox was purchased seperate from a bike.
304987	Jun 73	See Notes		Matching numbers. This bike has no number on the right side of the headstock but has 00109 on the left side. Maybe a Renolds frame?
305439	Jun 73	See Notes		1973 850 MkI with ham can air filter assembly. I bought this new, zero miles, from Taylor-Matterson in Feb '74. Still have it. Not sure of its original colour, as I had the T-M people convert it from a Roadster to a Black Interstate, but retaining the peashooter exhausts before shipping it to me in Canada. I have the metalflake Candy Red roadster tank, side covers and seat to change it back and forth. Purchased these parts from a Norton shop in UK in late 70's, so gen. Norton bits. Engine and gearbox rebuilt at 40,000 miles. Crash damage necessitated a NOS frame, sourced from a shop in UK in 1983
305713	-----	-----	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay
305740				Seen on eBay 7/23/21. Engine, Certification label and title match. Gearbox changed,
305783				Seen on eBay 5/14/23, 10/1/23, 10/28/23 and 11/23/23. Titled project bike with matching numbers.
305833				Owner says: "Purchased from Pokes Cycle Co in Seattle 3/7/74. (I have the original bill of sale )"
305959	Jul 73	See Notes	RH4	Matching numbers black Raodster - originally was Red. There is not frame number on the timing side of the hedstock and there are no numbers onb the drive side either. The owner is sure the frame has not been changed and the certificaiton label appears original, and the frame has the gussets behind the top rear shock mounths.
305970	Jul 73	See Notes	RH4	Original owner states that there is no number on either side of the headstock. It does have ANG yokes and it is an 850 with a RH4 head. Matching numbers Roaster. Originally had silver barrells but they are now black.
305980	Arp 73			Fastback replica BRG wiht valanced ris, numbers matching, long range tank, 18" rear wheel, and belt drive primary..
306028	Jul 73	See Notes		1974 Metal flake blue 850 Commando High Rider, now in Roadster trim. All original except handle bars and sea.t. Bought from second owner in North Wales Pennsylvania, original owner also lived in North Wales. 4900 miles All matching numbers. No frame number on timing side of neck. Drive side has 00116.
306089				RIP, See: 320520 This seial is from the gearbox.
306124		850F111707		The owner said he bought the bike in MI from a guy who bought it in OH. It was a Hi Rider restored to a Roadster by the previous owner. The certification label was removed for pwsder coating and lost. The engine, gearbox, and toital all match.
307094	Sep 73		RH4	Certification label date odd when considering serial numbers around this one. MK2A first registered in the UK Jul 74, Black barrel, black box air filter, balance pipe with split collets, long swingarm bushes, no chain guard extension, black Roadster. Important: The NOC says MK2A - see the "Important Note" on the Commando ID page - this serial is supposedly too low for a MK2 or MK2A! This serial must have hung around the factory for a long time. Also, the head is right for the serial but wrong for the date.
307241	May 73		RH4	Certifcation label date odd when considering serial numbers around this one.
307383	Aug 73			As of Sep 2020 this bike is being rebuilt. Matching numbers.
307481	Aug 73		RH10	Matching numbers in TX. "Bonded" TX title. Seen on eBay 11/15/2023
307489	See Notes		RH10	Black Roadster, black barrels, matching numbers, just restored in 2023. Owner said: "It was in a bit of a state so now has replacement mudguards, rims, tank and side panels, seat but is on the road in the UK and is lovely to ride. Every single nut bolt and washer has been through my hands and rather surprisingly, it runs and rides really well! My first one" The date on the certifiication label is simply 1973
307522	Aug 73		RH10	Pre-MKIII swingarm, Blue,
307542	Aug 73	850F100794	RH10	This bike is RIP. It was used to rebuild 320691, some of its parts are available for sale. See Rebuild Story and Parts The gearbox was 318335. The engine cases were sold ot a guy in Africa. Still have the frame but have destroyed the Certification Label since there is no title to match.
307564	Aug 73		RH4	RH4 seems wrong for the head. The date matches the serial and MK2/MK2A so RH10 head is expected
307627				RIP, See: 316479
307709				Parted out. Engined cases seen on eBay-UK 12/11/23
307758	Sep 73	850F102762		Owner says: Last December I found my Norton. It had been leaning against a trailer house for 21 years. It was pretty rough but I'm getting closer to getting it running. Click here to see what he started with.
3077xx	Sep 73		RH10
307844	Aug 73
307907	Sep 73		RH10	Fromn Craiglist 8/21/21 Good condition, numbers matching, Disco Ball blue, Tri-Spark, cNw oil tank mod. 19" front, 18" rear. This bike has pretty much every improvment you can add and still keep it looking stock..
308016	Sep 73	850F101407		Red 850 Roadster shipped to the states.
308071	Sep 73	850F101904		Matching Numbers
308372	Sep 73	850F102807	RH10	First registered in the UK 22 May 74; Balanced exhaust pipes, with black cap silencers; 32mm carbs; Chainguard with the extra black piece on the end
308401	Sep 73			Candy Apple MK2A Roadster
308408	Sep 73			MK2A imported from the US to NZ. Unknown whether origially in US.
308526	Sep 73	850F102707	RH10	The owner said: "I have a 1974 850 Mk2A Interstate in black. UK supplied and registered. I suspect that it began life as an Interpol, although it has been in Interstate trim since at least 1978. It has had the same engine and frame pairing since at least 1978 (the earliest record I have for the bike), and no record on the UK Department of Transport database that the frame number has changed over the life of the bike. Interestingly, the engine number is not stamped on the red ID plate (it's been left blank and appears to be the original plate). The gearbox shell has been changed at some point and does not match the engine." There is a stamp on the frame gusset (by the rear iso mount drive side) is F-7/73. All frame tubing appears to be Imperial. The gearbox is 130308
308719	Oct 73	850F103056	RH10	Owner's Comments: I bought Locally. Women said it was a “barn find” that she bought but after a year didn't realize what a British bike entailed – she has three BMWs and is an avid cyclist. Bike was running good but otherwise very rough – but all original. I am almost complete in renovation – small mods, but keeping all original parts I replaced if next buyer is OCD about originality
308743	Sep 73		RH10
3087xx	Sep 73		RH10
308968	Unk	850F1xxxxxx		Owner says: Unfortunately, when I got the bike, the original plate had been removed for powder coating and didn’t come with the bike. I sent away for the plate and had the number stamped in it. I do have the registration that states it was first registered in May/1974 so I know it was built before that date. Due to powdercoat, cannot read the last 6 of the frame number.
308975		N/A		Mostly there Black Roadster. Unregistered and imported from the US Unknown gearbox number and the red certificaiton label matches the engine. Seen on UK eBay 2/14/24.
309046	Oct 73	850F103489	RH10	I have recently taken delivery of a “1974” Mk2 850 Commando Roadster, repatriated from Texas to the UK. Mostly complete, with the option of additional rust. Not UK registered yet. Last date on Licence plate is 1981 - First embossed date on plate is ‘75). Texas history unknown. the gearbox has no number but otherwise, matching numbers. Under layers of paint, it appears to have been originally Fireflake Royal Blue, on a steel tank and fibreglass side covers. The components seem to be relatively unmolested, with most fasteners still having six flat sides. (Allen bolts on gearbox and timing covers) Currently starting a restoration to operational, then probably a more detailed resto. Final colour yet to be decided.
309048	Nov 73			Rider conditoin black Roadster seen on Bring A Trailer, Nov 27, 2022 - bidding at $7750 with 4 days to go.
309257	-----	-----	-----	Seen on eBay 4/18/21 for sale. Red Roadster. Matching numbers.
309550	Oct 73	850F103417	RH10	The owner says: Low mileage and completely original in Candy Apple Red. I bought it on 11th May 2022 on a UK age related plate, but it was imported back into the UK from the US on 3rd October 2021. The Certificate Of Title is from the state of Kansas. The original reg plate was with the bike - Missouri Plate. Sadly, I have zero history with it, and can assume that it got lost on the way back over the Atlantic :-( Once I get it on the road again and it passes it's Isle of Man roadworthiness (MOT) test, it will be registered again here with a Manx reg number.
309593	Nov 73		N/A	Matching numbers. Original model unknown, no head installed when current owner purchased the bike, now a Roadster, completely restored and on the road
309643	Oct 73		RH10
309643	Oct 73	850F104258		Roadster, Original Paint: John Player colors.
309647	Oct 73
309672				Engine/Gearbox matching numbers. Owner said: "I bought it in a non-standard frame (a rigid C&J chopper frame) in Vancouver BC in the late '90s. I took what I had - engine/gearbox and rigid frame, and built it as a 1970s chopper - has a +16" P&P girder, straight drag bars, a coffin gas tank, hexagonal oil tank, MityMax electrics, with 19"/16" Hallcraft Satelite wheels. I have been upgrading/refining my original build for the past two years, including new engine mounts to get the cylinders canted forward at 17 degrees."
309911	Nov 73	850F102329		From Alantic Green Frame Page
310005	Nov 73
310043	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine Cases seen on eBay 1/25/22
310311	Nov 73	850F104741	RH10	MK2A purchased in Scotland and then imported to PA, USA. It was converted to a cafe racer, converted back, ridden to CA, converted to a cafe racer, converted back, ridden to PA and sold to the second owner in 1976. Never restored, engine/gearbox never apart.
31041*	Nov 73
3104xx	Jan 74			Certifcation label date odd when considering serial numbers around this one.
3104xx	Nov 73
310528	Nov 73		RH10
310612	-----	-----	-----	Parted out. Complete gearbox seen on UK eBay 9/6/2023
310656	Nov 73	850F104081		Black Roadster, original tank and side covers paint, originally delivered to PA, USA, now in Queensland, AU. All matching numbers. Registered as a 73, but really should be 74.
310878	Nov 73		RH10
310928	Dec 73	850F104129		The owner said: "I purchased my Norton 850 Roadster from the local dealer here in Christchurch New Zealand on the 20th August 1974 which I still have. The engine/gearbox/frame is 310928. On the drive side or primary case side on the headstock is the number 00123".
311005	Dec 73			First registered May 74.
311032	Dec 73	850F105226	RH10	Candy apple red; Low UK handle bars that look like original and match 06-4132 specs. All A model items in place (Plastic air box.L/H side cover and battery tray ,2nd gear etc);Reinforced top shock mount (inner plate);Balanced header pipes (but might be non original);Early style wide bush swing arm; Rear brake plate with non external adjustment and non cut out chain guard; Square pattern seat with (looks) silver font; Non painted engine cases and RH10 cylinder head; Inner primary cover with a cone on the sliding disc
311188	Dec 73		RH10
311425	-----	-----	-----	Restored Black Interstate seen on eBay 8/4/2023. Seller lists the VIN on the title as a California DMV provided number and the engine serial as shown. Also the "frame" number matching the engine but no picture of hte certification label - I'm assuming that the "frame" is the certifcation label.
311622	-----	-----	-----	Parted out - Matching Engine and Gearbox cases seen on eBay
311981	Dec 73			Still wearing original "Fireflake Royal Blue" paint
312021	Dec 73			Seen on eBay 4/14/24 for $7495 OBO. Matching numbers, Red, White, and Blue, Unrestored, Titled
312097	Dec 73	850F005218	RH10	Titled, numbers matching, mess of a bike. Reynold frame?. On the left of the headstock:00122. On front of drive side tank mount 964149
312358				Running bike seen o eBay 6/6/21.
312431	-----	-----	-----	Parted out - I have the complete engine with a RH4 head, Not sure if I'll use that head or another.
312433	Dec 73	850F105776	RH10	Matching numbers, running bike.
312547	Feb 74	850F107291		Matching numbers. Besides the frame number on the timing side, it has 00126 on the drive side of the headstock! Owner said: "I purchased this bike a few years ago. It had a High Rider Fuel tank on it, but I was told it was a Roadster"
312573	Feb 74	850F106829	RH10	Original Paint Red Roadster MK2, matching numbers
313518	-----	-----	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay
313577				Seen on eBay 4/9/22. Nice looking bike. Balck, matchcing numbers.
313727	Mar 74			This is a running bike.
313739	Apr 74	See Notes	RH3	This ia a bitsa. It is currently a black, 750 Roadster. The certificaiton label has been re-made and says APRIL 1974 (should not be spelled out). The cylinders and head are 750 but the bottom end is 850. The frame has no number on the headstock so the frame is likely a 750 frame. The gearbox is 235196 so in the special 73 serial range. Government documentation has 313739 but no mention of the engine size- just says Commando for model. It has 932 carbs and no visible head number. From the gap between the cylinders and head I suspect a Combat or high-complession 73 750. My assumption is that 313739 was crashed and 235196 was used to rebuild it.
313761	Mar 74	850F106144		Data seen online, condition unknown
313761	Mar 74	850F106144		From Alantic Green Frame Page
314193	Apr 74		RH10	MK2; MKIII style short swingarm bushes with Welch plugs, slotted chain guard
314265		860F100978		Owned by an Access Norton member.
314587	-----	-----	-----	This bike is RIP. It was parted out and some parts used for 204375
314626				All origianl Royal Blue Roadster, matching numbers, seen on eBay 9/25/2020;
314828	Apr 74
315114	May 74		RH10
315377	----	See Notes	RH10	Engine and trans have matching numbers but the bike was parted out in GA - no frame. It was originally an Interstate. Is now in PA.
315459	May 74	850F110337		black Interstate
315495	May 74			Red Interstate, under restoration, matching numbers. This bike was imported to New Zealand from the US.
315835	-----	-----	-----	Parted out - Engine cases seen on eBay 12/19/20.
315905	May 74			Matching numbers, Original Red Paint, MK3 Roadster, one owner, engine seized, Clean title, Sitting since 1981. Sold for $4910 on eBay Oct 22, 2023
31604x	Jun 74		RH10
316258				Black Interstate, seen on eBay 10/10/20 listed as a 750 but is clearly an 850. Seller states it is matching numbers. Has CNW electric start and other modifications.; Seen again in eBay 12/9/20 now listed as an 850.
316320	-----	-----	-----	Parted out. Complete gearbox seen on UK eBay 9/6/2023
316385	Jun 74
316436				Refurbished black Interstate, matching numbers
316474	Jun 74			This is a running bike.
316479	Jun 74	850F11231	RH10	Owner says (paraphrased) I have owned it since 1990. It was a US Import back to the UK. I took it to Australia with me in the mid nineties where it threw a big end (suspect it was like it on purchase). Back in the UK after much expense it now has an engine and gearbox rebuild and is painted in JPN colours. I love it but it was clearly a clanking ruin when I bought it. The head has been opened up to 32mm. Still has points. GearboxL 307627
316532	Jun 74	850F11105		Number matching.
316544	Jun 74
31661x	Jun 74		RH10
316716	Jun 74
316984				John Player Norton, restored to original spec, sold in 2018, matching numbers
317212	Jun 74	850F112338	RH10	It's been sitting a few years and I will get it going for the owner this spring. It has no 00xxx number on the left side of the headstock.
317225	Jul 74	850F108494		This is a running bike.
317343	Jul 74
317462	Jul 74	850F1107671		From Alantic Green Frame Page
317848	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317849	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317850	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317851	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317852	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317853	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317854	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317855	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317856	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317857	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317858	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317859	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317860	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317861	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317862	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317863	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317864	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317865	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317866	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317867	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317868	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317869	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317870	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317871	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317872	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317873	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317874	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317875	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317876	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317877				Owner says: Imported from the states to Auckland NZ, parked up for a long time before I purchased it and bought it back from its slumber. Now in black and gold trim but I intend to go back to the candy red if I can find a good painter! Bike now resides in Southland, New Zealand. From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317878			RH10	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
317879	-----	-----	-----	From the factory record. Model: MK2, Date Build: 15 Jul 1974, Date Despatched: 15 Jul 1974 (Strange for build and despatched date to be the same)
318299	Jul 74	850F109123		Matching numbers. Drive side of the head stock has 00127
318335	N/A	N/A	N/A	This is probably RIP. The serial number is from the gearbox which was installed in 307542 - an untitled parts bike - see the write-up.
318416	N/A			Mostly finished restore of a 74 Interstate in blue. It's a bitza. Engine: 320210 Red certification labe: 318416 Both numbers listed here with the same content. Seen on H. J. Pugh auction website 2/14/24.
318478	Aug 73	850F109297		Matching numbers. From the owner: 1976: Purchased by my father in Andorra (used) 1976-1980: Ridden regularly by my parents around Northeast Spain 1980: Shipped to Vermont, USA. Tipped over during shipping, silencers & handlebars replaced with Triumph(?) 1980 - 1993: Ridden sporadically, poor maintenance & care. Had 14995 km 1993 - 2015: Stored in multiple locations, became a "barn find" 2015: Moved to indoor garage 2017: Complete disassembly to frame. (Motor had one piston "welded" to the cylinder due to rat urine!) 2021: Restoration complete (using original parts from when my father owned it) Summer 2023: Took my father for his requested "One last ride". (78 years old with Alzheimers & Parkinsons). He remembered that bike until he passed away in Jan, 2024. 2024: Currently at 17084 km. Restoration being updated to return to Interstate silencers & UK handlebars, adding Alton starter.
319240				From Factor Records, Date Built Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched Aug 26, 1974, Miodel: MK2A, Batch: NH29/74
319241				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319242				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319243				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319244				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319245				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319246				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319247				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319248				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319249				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319250				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319251				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319252				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319253				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319254				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319255				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319256				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319257				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, Interpol, Batch: 100
319258				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, MK2, Batch: NM30/74
319259				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, MK2, Batch: NM30/74
319260				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, MK2, Batch: NM30/74
319261				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, MK2, Batch: NM30/74
319262				From the NOC Factor Records, "Built" Aug 26, 1974, Dispatched Aug 27, 1974, MK2
319263				From the NOC Factor Records, "Built" Aug 26, 1974, Dispatched Aug 27, 1974, MK2
319264				From the NOC Factor Records, "Built" Aug 26, 1974, Dispatched Aug 27, 1974, MK2
319265	Aug 74	850F111966	RH10	From the Andover Norton dispatch records, "Built" Aug 26, 1974, Dispatched Aug 27, 1974, MK2 Roadster. The bike was sold new in Sept 1975 in Wellington New Zealand. It is therefore registered as a 1975 bike by the NZ Transport authority. Owner Said: "I am the third owner and bought the bike in 1978. I still know the second owner and only the first 18 months of its life is unknown to me. I think the bike may have been raced in the first 18 months of its life. The engine had a non standard camshaft, mainstand removed and the tank was painted black. I think it may have originally been a metalflake blue colour. In 2019/20 I upgraded with several CNW components including - Brembo front brake, hydraulic clutch, Mk 111 type isolastics, CNW electric start. It also has a Dave Taylor head steady, one piece rear axle, and other detailing. The gearbox case has been replaced because of cracks between bearing housings etc. The engine is on first rebore with J Schmitz light pistons and longer rods, dynamically balanced crank ( the original crank was cracked on the drive side and replaced with a good crack tested second hand crank) , new mains, valves, guides etc. The cam is standard 850. The engine was rebuilt by John Saywell in Wellington. Carbs are new Amal premiers, ignition is Pazon. I rebuilt the rest of the bike. The frame etc has been checked and corrected as necessary as per the "Worlds Straightest Commando" article. The bike has a good quality Black and Gold Roadster paint job done in 1997 but recently I have purchased a complete Interstate tank, sidecovers, seat and passenger grab rail set which is painted in very high quality candy apple red. Basically I have owned this bike since I was a student in university and two years ago when I retired it was restored and upgraded money no object. All the original parts were retained and can be replaced." The owner later added: "I had the bike completely to pieces about 5 years ago and had a very good look at the steering head. The F number was easy to find but I did not see anything else. I was not looking for the second number at the time but did sand the paint back so I'm pretty certain I would have seen it. I can confirm the frame definitely has imperial diameter tubing. Not metric. I measured the main backbone tube and the front down tubes, and they were imperial sizing." So, a Renolds frame with no 00xxx number and an "F" in the frame number - I would like to find a couple more with this much info as it debunks a lot of the thinking about Frame Numbers and the 00xxx number.
319266				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, MK2, Batch: NM30/74
319267				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Aug 26, 1974, Date Dispatched: Aug 26, 1974, MK2, Batch: NM30/74
319416	Aug 74	850F107384	RH10	Owned by Access Norton member. The drive-sde of the headstock has 00126
319478	Aug 74			This is a running bike.
319496				From the Factory Records, Date Built: Sep 25, 1974, Date Dispatched: Sep 25, 1974, Model: MK2, Batch: NM 30/74
319497				From the Factory Record, Date Built: Sep 25, 1974, Date Dispatched: Sep 25, 1974, Model and Batch both blank
319520				From the Factory Record, Date Built: Sep 25, 1974, Date Dispatched: Sep 25, 1974, Model and Batch both blank
319521				From the Factory Record, Date Built: Sep 25, 1974, Date Dispatched: Sep 25, 1974, Model and Batch both blank
319522				From the Factory Record, Date Built: Sep 25, 1974, Date Dispatched: Sep 25, 1974, Model and Batch both blank
319523	Aug 74	850F113499	RH10	Owner's Notes: Candy apple red, original paint, Roadster, matching numbers. Overall, the bike appears to be somewhat unmolested. During the cleaning, detailing light refurbish, and service of the bike, I came across several, of what I believe are date codes. The letter “D” shows in many places, and I'm assuming and guessing it represents 1974 – just speculating From the Factory Records, Date Built: Sep 25, 1974, Date Dispatched: Sep 25, 1974, Model and Batch both blank
319532	Aug 74		RH10
31965*				MKIIA Built Sep 27, 1974, dispatched Oct 5, 1974, Batch 31/74 543, sold in England
320210	N/A	See Notes		Mostly finished restore of a 74 Interstate in blue. It's a bitza. Engine: 320210 Red certification labe: 318416 Both numbers listed here with the same content. Seen on H. J. Pugh auction website 2/14/24.
320520				MKIIA. Gearbox 306089
320691	Aug 74	850F114572	RH10	According to the factory record: Batch No.: 64A, Frame No.: 114572, Date Off Track: 23 Oct 74, Date Passed Test: 5 Nov 74, Date Packed: 11 Nov 74, Date Despatched: 26 Nov 74 to USA, Color: Black. Rebuilt to stock and sold, then upgraded with cNw e-start,. Rebuild Story
320713	Aug 74			Interpol white, ex police bike sold in the uk, imported to usa. No number plate. The fairing mount is on the neck Ihere the id plate might have been. Solo seat, panniers. Tranny non matching number.
320768		850F113633		According to the factory record: Batch No.: 13, Frame No.: 113633, Date Off Track: 24 Oct 74, Date Passed Test: 25 Oct 74, Date Packed: 28 Oct 74, Date Despatched: 5 Nov 74 to NTI, Color: F/S
320769		850F113482		According to the factory record: Batch No.: 13, Frame No.: 113482, Date Off Track: 24 Oct 74, Date Passed Test: 24 Oct 74, Date Packed: 28 Oct 74, Date Despatched: 2 Nov 74 to NTI, Color: F/S
320774		850F113616		Probably a MK2A. Bike is in NZ, recently imported from Samoa. May have originally been in NZ.
325056				Originally a High Rider, rebuilt to black café racer, matching numbers
325545	Nov 74	850F125479		From Alantic Green Frame Page
325582		850F125315		Matching numbers Roadster, Hyde front brake, From Facebook
325599		850F126696		Roadster, Restored, Repainted Emerald Green, Com-Pac luggage system, Frame, Single Mikuni, K&N filter, Corbin seat, From Facebook
325645	Dec 74	See Notes		Frame, swingarm, cradle, and engine bottom end. No title. See on eBay 10/28/23, Last three of frame hard to read - looks like 850F125104
325947	Dec 74			Seen online for a auction at the National Motorcycle Museum in the UK. Interstate. This was listed as a 74, but it is a MKIII so 75. Also, they listed the frame as the same as the engine but that is wrong - they are talking aout the serial on hte certificaiotn label not the frame - it was months later when Norton started matching the engine and frame numbers. The write-up says: "This 1974 Norton Commando was manufactured and assembled at the factory on the 31st of December 1974 and despatched to the dealer in Berliner of the USA on the 7th of January 1975. The Norton came back to the UK in July 2015, since it has been back in the UK the Norton has had a full restoration to a very high standard. There are a host of receipts for work carried out and many parts to complete the restoration. Since completion, the Norton has been enjoyed by the previous owner. It has been part of a small collection of machines in the current ownership and has been used until the end of last summer."
325951	Dec 74	850F126185	RH4	Was on ebay before, now in PA. Candy apple red Frame
326042	Dec 74	850F125193		1975 Black 850 Commando MkIII Bought in Florida from a Harris possible first owner 1/2 redo not running when purchased. 11,750 miles. All matching numbers From my limited knowledge with the exception on starter motor it’s original, running and residing in my garage Pennsylvania
326069		See Notes	RH4	From a picture of a crated Black Norton. The frame number on the crate is 125160 s it's unknown if it's 850F125160 or 850 125160
326119	Dec 74			Red Roadster,CNW switches, Mikuni,From Bring a Trailer
326154		850F125517		From Alantic Green Frame Page
326155	Jan 75	850F126775		MK3, Frame, engine cases and complete gearbox, titled by frame number and as 1974. Matching number. See on eBay 4/17/24.
326168	Dec 74
326209	Jan 75	850F125681		From Alantic Green Frame Page
326271	-----	-----	-----	Seen on eBay 4/18/21 for sale. Black Roadster. eBay description: 1975 Norton 850 Commando electric start, in a rare condition, all Original, 1 Owner, everything is clean and works, No accidents, No repaint, 2,755 mi. Runs great
326363	Dec 74			RWB roadster mk3 pretty much stock except for peashooters and non linked header pipes. Numbers match, rebuilt motor (Phil Radford)
326775	Jan 75		RH4	Black and Gold Roadster,$9500,From Bring a Trailer
326860				Frame and engine cases see on eBay 3/26/2023
327128	Jan 75			Black gold interstate, valanced wheels, 18” rear, stock except for peashooters and early gauge holders. Numbers match.
327221		850F127787		Seen on eBay for sale, 3/19/21, matching numbers, Black Roadster
327250	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - Engine Cases seen on eBay 1/25/22
327399		N/A		Originally a Roadster, MkIII engine/gearbox, modified monoshock frame from Kenny Dreer original 952 prototype, Blue
327522	Feb 75	850F128153		From Alantic Green Frame Page
327627	Feb 75			Red, Roadster, Restored, Peashooters,Early beehive tail light,$11250,From Bring a Trailer
327760	-----	-----	-----	This gearbox was purchased seperate from a bike.
327945	Feb 75	850F128591		Black and Gold Roadster,Restored,$16.5k,From Bring a Trailer
328227	-----	-----	-----	Owner says: 75. Red roadster. Just about back on the road. Very original 3 owner bike Matching numbers. This bike was imported to New Zealand from the US.
328330	Feb 75			Black and Gold Roadster,Mikuni,Peashooters,$12250,From Bring a Trailer
328348	Feb 75	850F128888		From Alantic Green Frame Page
328643	75	850F1288--	RH4	The certification label only has 75 for a date. Interstate, Grey with Red stripes. Originally shipped to Canada.
328688		850F129481	RH10	the owner said: "I bought my commando August 12, 1976 new from Motorcycles Unlimited , Corte Madera California $1750.00 out the door with Dunstalls. Frame 850F129481 Engine 328688. Imperial Frame. 57,200 miles. RH4 head"
328913	Mar 75	850F129250	RH4	I have a 1975 850 Mk III Commando Roadster, either US or Canadian export version (It has a Canadian Warning Light assimilator). Build date is March 1975. It has an Imperial frame. Gas tank is black OEM paint, side covers, seat & mufflers all missing when I obtained it. I plan to get the factory records for it from AN later this year. I will pass them on, once I receive them. Bike was left outside to rot. Mufflers, chain guard & lower section of from rim did exactly that. Odometer shows a bit over 5600 miles. Ohio license plate expired in March 1983. All numbers match.
329536	Mar 75	850F129311	RH4	The frame listed is the original frame. It was replaced with a new frame from Andover Norton Feb 2020. Info from the owner: I was the 3rd owner, buying the bike in late 9/79. First owner unknown, 2nd owner bought the bike in early 1979 & crashed it at the end of that summer. I bought it as a rideable wreck with 14,913 miles on it, and shortly thereafter replaced the gas tank, handlebars, front fender & a few minor related parts. Currently, it has 17,832 on the replacement speedometer, but I probably rode it 2,000+ miles with a broken speedo at one point years ago; I estimate total mileage on the bike is about 35,000+ miles. It had been shipped to the the US, per factory records, as a white (JPN colors presumably) roadster but it was a black roadster when I bought it – no clue as to whether Berliner or the first owner did the color change, but the tank & side cover paint looked OEM to me at the time. Several years later, I made it into an Interstate, still black. It had been converted to a Mikuni singe carb & peashooters by that time. It now has a Mikuni carb, Pazon electronic ignition and repro black cap mufflers but is essentially otherwise essentially stock.
329905	Mar 75			Black and Gold Roadster,Original,$20250,From Bring a Trailer
329952	Mar 75	850F130588		From Alantic Green Frame Page
330002	Mar 75	N/A		Originally a Roadster, converted to blue monoshock café racer, matching numbers
330015	Apr 75	850F130643		Quite a story! I bought a re-import to the UK from Virginia in about 1999. A black matching numbers 850 MKIII Roadster, I have shipped her to Dubai twice, now we're back in the UK, I did have the original Virginia title, but unfortunately it was lost with house moves. Dispatched 10 Apr 1975
330046	Mar 75	850F130370		From Alantic Green Frame Page
330187	N/A	N/A		Parted out. Engine seen on H. J. Pugh auction website 2/14/24.
330331		850F180441		Seen online for a auction at the National Motorcycle Museum in the UK. Interstate. Writeup says: "This very well presented Mk3 Commando has been restored and modified by a previous owner to make it more reliable and better to ride. The always suspect starter motor has been upgraded, a Mikuni carb fitted, Boyer Brandson electronic ignition, Landsdown adjustable fork cartridges, Koni rear dampers and a Norvil twin disc front end. The cosmetic restoration was completed with stainless steel rims and spokes shod with some modern tyres. It would be hard to find a better example of what is quite a rare version of one of the last great British bikes of the era. Not run for a while it will need some recommissioning, but the engine turns over on the kickstarter"
330419	Apr 75	850F130759		From Alantic Green Frame Page
330419	Apr 75
330540				Roadster, matching numbers
330549		850F130912		Mix of Interstate and Roadster.
330635	Apr 75		RH4	Black and Gold Interstate,Peashooters (did not meet reserve),From Bring a Trailer
330701		850F131591		Seen online for a auction at the National Motorcycle Museum in the UK. Interstate. Good bit of rust. The write-up says: "This 1975 Norton Commando 850 was purchased by the late owner in 1978 (receipt on file) The original owner was a policeman who used to ride Commandos in the force and when he retired he purchased this machine as new. After short-term ownership, it was then purchased by the late owner from Arther Prince in Loughborough for the sum of £795.00. The late vendor used the Norton more or less every day until 1981 when he decided that it was time to purchase a car. Then placed in the garage, it was started up from time to time to keep it in good order. Sadly, due the the vendor’s passing, the family has decided that it is time for someone to take over the Norton and get it back on the road again. The engine turns over with compression and moves with ease. Full recommissioning will be required before use."
330775	Apr 75	850F131462		All matching numbers MKII Interstate. Owner says: I have owned my Mk3 since new, 03.09.75, registration number xxx xxxx, bought from Sports Motorcycles, Manchester, England. I am currently replacing the frame as both rear down tubes have fractured. I am not going for a concourse finish simply servicing everything and replacing all service bearings, etc. European date 3/9/75 = Sep 3, 1975.
330882	-----	-----	-----	Parted out - engine cases seen on eBay Nov 12, 2023
330996				Matching numbers, rebuilt, seen on eBay Feb 7, 2024 for $35K!
331294	Apr 75	850F132023		Red Roadster,Original,19K,From Bring a Trailer
331330				Owner says: 75 Roadster red. Running strong with a few cNw upgrades on it. Restored 2022, matching numbers. This bike was imported to New Zealand from the US.
331412			RH4	Matching engine and gearbox in for rebuilding.See: Rebuild Story
331676	-----	N/A	-----	Parted out - owner has the gearbox but nothing else..
331750	May 75			Roadster, matching numbers
331837				Seen on eBay 10/3/20. Black Commano Roadster, Matching numbers. Video
332351	May 75	850F132481	RH10	Matching numbers and originally a Roadster with a red tank with white pinstripes. Now a black Interstate.
332473	May 75	850 332473
332529	May 75			Red frame interstate, chromed sliders, calipers, z plates, centerstand and side stand. Blacked out crankcase. Numbers match. Black caps with no header crossover. Rebuilt engine (Chris Greenbacker)
332585	Jun 75		RH4	Black and Gold Roadster,Mikuni,$20250,From Bring a Trailer
332965	Jun 75			Black and Gold Roadster,Restored,$20k,From Bring a Trailer
332965	Jun 75			Black and Gold Roadster,Restored,$20k,From Bring a Trailer
332981	Jun 75	850 332981		Numbers matching MK3
333090		850 333090		Seen on hitchcockmotorcycles.com 11/26/2023
333093	Jun 75	850 333093		From Alantic Green Frame Page
333096	Jun 75			Red/gold, pretty much all stock including blackcaps and airbox. Numbers matching, motor rebuilt (Dyno Dave) n
333127	Jun 75		RH4	Black and Gold Roadster, Restored, K&N, Excel Wheels,$18500,From Bring a Trailer
333555				From the factory record, tested Jun 24, 1975 and dispatched Jun 27, 1974.
334003	Jul 75	850 334003		Owner's notes: I have a 1975 MK3 850 Commando in Roadster trim. I think it was originally a Hi Rider and was exported back to the UK back in the 1990's. It is currently undergoing a full restoration in Roadster Trim. The bike is now me in SW France. Engine and frame numbers are - 334003. The factory record was so devoid of information that Andover Norton Ltd refunded my money!
334191	Jul 75	850 334191	N/A	Head not marked
334226				This one is owned by the same guy as 332981 and it's a basket case currently. He has the matching engine and gearbox but sold the frame. He plans ot build the engine and use it in 332981 so this on is more-or-less RIP.
334521				Owner said: "supposedly an Interpol model it is now an interstate in silver"
334699		850 334699		Owner said: "To start with, It's a non running bike, acquired as a project. Probably hasn't been on the road for more than 30 years . It consists of a frame, engine, gearbox, wheels. I also have the tank, seat and a few other bits, but most of the accessories are missing. Long term project . Frame and gearbox no is 334699. Factory records show very little details. Production batch 834, tested 23rd july 75, packed 24th, dispatched works 2 25th The engine was changed at some point. No is 334743. Production batch 834, tested 24th july 75, packed 25th. I know the bike was an interpol model. It was part of a fleet of 36 MK3 that served as presidential escort for Jomo Kenyatta, the first president of Kenya. I presume the engine belongs to one of the other bikes in the fleet. They were decommissioned in the early 80's. I have no other info on its early days. I bought it from a friend who had it sitting at the back of his garage for 20 years. He had bought it as a non running bike."
334736				Parted out, Engined cases seen on eBay-UK 12/11/23
334743				This bike is RIP. The engine is in 334699.
334808		850 334808		Refurbished and sold w/ Black Roadster bodywork
334866	Jun 75	850 334866
335623		850 335623		I have a Norton Commando MK3, first registered 22/4/1977. Engine and frame no. is 335623. I am the second owner and I have had it since 1985. It had 1800 miles on when I bought it and now only has 2500.
335791	See Notes		RH4	From the Factory Record: Production Batch No: 9A, Tested and Accepted: May 9, 1977, Dispatched From No. 2 Works: May 30, 1977, Silver Interstate. The red certification label is very interesting. 1) Instread of the Month and Year, it just has 77. 2) The serial number is in the form of the normal frame number @850@335791@ and the owner cannot find a frame number stanped into the headstock. The current owner says that it was originally delivered to London dealer Read Brothers, further comments on the document, Interstate UK MPH. I checked some of the frame tube OD’s and I believe it to be imperial tube and not metric . So somehow it may have shipped went over to the US at some point I’m assuming. It was first registered here in UK on 4th August 2005. I purchased it a year ago from the owner who purchased it in 2005 from a dealer who must have done the importing, Cotswold Classics who are bust now having lost their licence to sell due to some unscrupulous dealing!

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